Let Your Negative Emotions Fuel You For Good w/ Ellery Sears

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Hey everyone, welcome back to the Walk to Wealth podcast. If you're tuning in on YouTube or any of the podcast directories, make sure to do yourself one teeny, tiny little favor and make sure to give us a follow, because I don't want you to miss out on any of the amazing guests we got coming on this year. Without further ado, let's get right into this one, ellery, for anyone who hasn't had the pleasure to meet you, to get to know you yet, brother, you know, tell us your elevator pitch. You know who are you and what do you do.

Hey, john, thanks for having me man, I really appreciate the opportunity. Yeah, my name is Ellery Sears. I'm out of Cleveland, ohio. I'm in the smart home security space. So everything connected with the home security systems, hvac locks I help people to save time, money and have peace of mind by integrating those devices in the one system. I'm also known as the smart home professor, also known as the negative coach, you know. So on the personal development side. So just integration, man, that's probably my key word, just weaving those two things together. You know my smart home business is my bread and butter and my personal development side is my passion. So you know, kind of in two tracks, but you know that's me man.

No, I love it, man, because that's what I'm doing here, because I got the whole AI thing popping off. And then I have the podcast, which has nothing to do with AI at all. But it's more like the entrepreneurial journey that I wanted to track, sign down. So I'm right there with you, man. Like I always say, AI fulfills the pockets. The podcast fulfills my purpose.

All right, I like that.

You know, sometimes you can always get further, faster when you focus all in on one thing. But like. I don't want to let either of my babies die.

You feel me, so I just got to figure it out how to keep both of them alive right.

I can't choose one or the other. And so, for anyone who doesn't know, I actually haven't made an episode on this. I probably should make an episode, but I was able to compete in the Great American Speak Off. There was like 30,000 people that registered. I had a 30,000, 6,000 auditioned and from the 6,000, both Ellery and I got to be one of the top 25, and he actually went to the top 30, if I'm not mistaken. And so that's how me and him got to connect. We chopped it up. He was one of the dopest guys I got to meet, very down-to-earth guy, humble killer Like you wouldn't have been able to tell he wasn't poking your chest, trying to. You know flaunt and you know, but I'm the guy like doing this thing, killing it in business, and also super down-to-earth, which I was like yo, bro, you got to get on the show. We got to chop it up. So I always like to start off here. Man, take us back in the time machine. Man, what was little Ellery like growing up? Where did his journey all begin?

Man growing up probably pretty introverted, you know, kind of stayed to myself Not nearly. You know, if I look back at my younger self, it told me he'd be speaking on stages and doing all these things. He'd probably you know shit himself. But I mean, I'll always just lay it back and yeah, man, I think I will say, I will say this like I did always have aspirations, right, I knew that I wanted to not just have the status quo I didn't have a lot of clarity on what that looked like, obviously, but but yeah, you know, I think that that is a core piece of my personality, you know, just wanting to do and have more. So but yeah, man, just a regular kid man I played outside, you know, I know you're a young man, man, y'all know, y'all play.

Y'all didn't play outside like that, but I'm not.

No, my generation still there. My generation still there. We were outside.

Okay, no, we was outside, you know so. So I'm a millennial, so I've had the. You know the benefits of life. You know well the perspective of life before and after the internet, right? So yeah, I think that that helps, you know, just connecting with people and and and and also being familiar enough with the opportunities that the internet and technology brings. So, but, yeah, man, normal dude man, I won't, I won't say I came up like in in poverty or nothing like that. Like you know, my mom took care of us well and, you know, had a good upbringing, grew up in church, I was a church musician and you know, just just a lot of, a lot of a lot of different journeys, yeah, I'm not church.

no, it's funny, I grew up in church. I started going to church in third grade and I had. So I'm pretty tall, like I'm not. I'm not pretty tall, I'm decent height bro. I'm like five and five, 11, bro.

Yeah, we about the same.

But I had a late growth spurt, a very, very late growth spurt. So I'm like four, four, six in middle school, four, eight in middle school. Yo, why am I, my church, happy playing the trombone? Out of every instrument on the planet? My church stopped for whatever reason. It was gonna be a good idea to have me playing trombone. I don't know why I could barely reach the last, you know the last slide on the thing. Man, it was rough.

I ain't gonna lie, I've never, ever, no. You know what? The drummer at my church was a professional trombone player. He would bring it every once in a while, but it wasn't like every service type of thing with the trombone you know, not a foundational piece of the band.

That's dope man. I picked up a trombone one time in high school because I was in band and they needed trombone players. So my band director offered anybody who would try a new instrument and switch an automatic A in the class. All you had to do was take lessons with them and you know and try. So I'm like shit, I take an easy A. I should trombone. That is a hard instrument to play, bro. You know, just memorizing the slides and then having to fix your lips right. You know, I didn't like it.

So yeah, me too. Man Did not like it, and then having to reach bro that was like that was the worst part of it all man Having to do all that at the same time.

Being the same size as you.

Yo, yeah, 100%, and that's just a weapon Right I got a rocket launcher on your shoulder, exactly.

But I wanted to ask you you mentioned, too, something like that. I still really haven't been able to explain for myself, but I had something in me as well that, for whatever reason and, as I said, I wasn't entrepreneurial growing up at all either, like I wasn't selling sneakers, I didn't have the lemonade stand, but I had that in me we're like, for whatever reason, like retiring at 65 just didn't add up for me and I still, even to this day, I still can't really describe what it is Now is a lot more prevalent. It's like that's like a big burning fire that I got in me. But like even back then, before I knew what entrepreneurship was or business was or even had any interest in that stuff Like I had something in me that would just like yeah, I just want to retire at 40. Right?

65 seems too long.

I don't know why. I don't know what I was going to do. I don't know. I knew I didn't want to go corporate, but I didn't know what path I was going to be on. I just knew, for whatever reason, like retiring at 65 didn't sound like the way for me. I sounded like there's got to be something better out there. I don't know really what. Like. Do you have any ideas to where that like that fire desire kind of came from?

I think it's just like.

I think it's just like perspective. You know what I mean. It's like like now, like I'm 36 now and I remember being younger and seeing Like my parents in their 30s, and then just seeing like people who are my age now and they just seem like way older and way more mature. You know, it is like like 30, like me at 30s, just seem like so far away, like like dang, that's old as hell. And then it's like Like now I'm in my thumb in my late 30s and like 40s right there, and 40 still is like dang, like that's 40, you know, I'm saying, but 65 is just like Really far away and it just seems like that's just a long time to be doing things.

You know, I think, I think, I think you know, because things are so much more fast-paced now. That allows for a lot of Opportunity to change, like you, and you can change and then do different things very quickly. You can pivot, like, if I don't want to do smart homes anymore, I can literally get on internet and figure out and decide to do something else, like right now I don't have to go all the way to the library and and pick up, but like you can. You have, we have so much access to everything and I think with that access Comes awareness, and it's like Yo, I don't have to work till 65 because I can just figure something out.

I don't have to do that right, and then you, and then we have access to People who are doing that right and you have examples that you can follow like oh so, and so can do it. Like you know those kids on YouTube who are making millions of dollars playing with toys in front of a camera, right, so it's like that kid. That kid can just get on his tablet and do a screen record and get all these streams and make all this Money like I'm sure I can figure out something In my very big age to, you know, make something happen where I'm not like a senior citizen still trying to figure it out. You know, a shot, a shout out to to the senior there's no, it's no shade, obviously you know I mean, but, but I think that you know, to answer your question, it's like I think it's just the exposure to all the opportunities and things that are available that make it More realistic.

You know, back in, back in the day, it was like you got to find it Find a good job for a good company, with benefits and, you know, with longevity, and then work there and get your 401k and then retire and have a wife and have a kids and have a dog and live in the suburbs and like that was like what you, that's what they were exposed to. You know they watched. You know watched a lot of TV. You have family sitcoms and that's what was being, you know, presented. Now we have things like social media and you know the internet and we can see all these different walks of life. Like man, you know, I don't Need to go that way, I prefer to go this way, you know. And then, yeah, I think that that plays a huge part and you know what what we want to do 100%.

I think that One of the big things for me I think that helped me out is like growing up in our city like you see a bunch of different people, like we got people in the Northside of town Living in multi-million dollar properties come into the same high school with people who grew up in the projects and like everything, everyone in between, and so you like it was one of the things like private school, all that stuff is great and all, but it's like you don't get a more like realistic view of life. Then, going to inner city school, I feel like, because that's really like how life really is, you got people from all walks of life, some people you know bugging out, doing, you know, on a path that may not lead them to prosperity, and then you got other people who are coming from nothing but wealth and, like everyone in between, you get to see all these different Perspectives and viewpoints. I think that kind of helped me out a lot, trying to which just become an open-minded I said didn't really. Yeah, I think entrepreneurial for me, but it just it gave me a lot of perspective and Wisdom because I was able to be open-minded enough to try to see things from their lens, I was always very argumentative, like I love argumentative essays back in middle school and in high school.

They would do things like you know what's the best I, you know, you know snack pizza or ice cream or something like that, and I would like I would go to whatever side had less people, just so I could More arguments for me, bro. But like that helped me get a lot of perspective and so like For you, I kind of to pivot a little bit. So you were in band, you said. In high school you said you were just a normal guy from your mom, provided Were you entrepreneurial at all growing up or was that something that wasn't even out in your mind at all?

You know I was, I was smart, like I scored really high on my college entrance exams and I was able to Get into college without any prerequisites. However, I was a direct admit into the College of Business and you know, at the time, like nobody in my family was an entrepreneur. Entrepreneur, that just wasn't the norm. So, like I remember, even when Mom I had I remember having a conversation with my mom which she brings up to this day she always, like, apologizing, regressed this conversation. But long story short, she was like well, what are you gonna do With a business degree? Like you know, start a business? Like. And it was like, like the way that that question was asked is like huh, you know you're right Like, why would I go to college? You know it was kind of similar like a basket weave in degree.

You know the way that, the way that the conversation went, I didn't finish school but so I entered the workforce and then I Did. I was just bouncing from job to job and you know I, in between jobs, I was looking in the newspaper and you know I'll find different. You know I found jobs to like for sales, like I sold Kirby vacuums for a couple days and that was, that was trash door to door. But I guess, I guess I've always just really been open to opportunities For the end goal, like you know, and it may not necessarily been to be a business man per se, but it would be.

You know, I want to Make enough money to buy some J's. Or you know, I want to, I want to, I want to travel or just pay my bills, or, you know, go go out with my friends and hang out. So you know, it was like these, these short-term targets, and I knew what I wanted to get there as quickly as possible, as ethically as possible. So if there was an opportunity to do that, whether it be Finding a job that was gonna pay me enough money where my time exchange was worth it, or it was gonna be Sell some stuff and try and sell some things, and I can make this commission. You know, and this on this dream, they're selling me. So you know one thing I'm willing to try right. So just trying and trying and trying. And then you know, I Fell into this and been doing this for the last 14 years.

So that's fire man. I feel like that's one of the things that I think Russell once said it one time. He was like you got to be a good, a good steward of the ideas that God bless you with. So when I heard it resonated with me so much. It's like it's not about succeeding with the ideas, it's about Taking action. It's like here's the ball, the ball's in your court. Now, what you want to do, show me something, I bust a move right.

It's like I feel like a lot of people get past the ball and it's like, oh, my goodness, I don't know. And then, like next thing, you know, like six months later, it's like yo, I did had the idea to do that I was gonna start that business and then they never started it in someone else's day, well, too late right, yeah, and it's just like for me, similar to you and I was trying anything. I'm speaking on Russell Broussinson. Have you read expert secrets?

I've not so it's.

It's the second book that he wrote. It's a blue one and in the book I think like page eight or something like that, page seven, like in the book, it was like dual virtual summit. I I was like I have a podcast, I already know a bunch of speakers. Like I could do a virtual summit. I could just go reach out to my past guests and say, hey, I'm doing a summit, like you want to hop on and do a little interview for it? Man? I closed the book. Man. I ain't even finished reading the book. I ain't go past to page 10. I closed the book and they didn't look at it for three months. I hosted my first virtual summit. That dream flopped. I got like 17 people registered for it man, it was awful. But I got the idea and as soon as I did it like I read it, I took action Right.

I think I sent out the email that day, like I typed it up and sent it out to everyone that I had in mind and it flopped and it was like man. It was one of those things that was like embarrassing, but it's like man, it's like one of those things I had to try, though I had the idea I can't let it go to waste.

Hey, version one is better than version none, you know so.

No, 100%, man, 100%. So let me ask you then how many things did you fail before or try before you finally came to the home smart business that you got going on?

Countless, bro, countless Like, if I remember, before I got hired. So before I started my business, I got hired as a security alarm technician and I was in between jobs I was actually on unemployment and my unemployment was running out, but I remember it was like taxis there's around this time actually Shoot. I think I got. I think it was March 10th Will be 14 years, I believe it was like March 10th, sometime in March in 2010,. I got hired. So I remember I was doing my taxes and I had like 10 W tools just from the previous year, like, just like, dude, just go on child's side, bro, like I did. I did everything from food service to housekeeping, to sales and just all over the place and just trying to, you know, make some money because I knew I just didn't want to. I couldn't just sit on my butt anymore. So I mean countless, countless times Like, and then even even there, like, I started working there.

I worked there for like three, four years and ended up leaving from that company and decided to start my own and I've been failing by the way forward ever since. You know so. So you know, failure is just that, just comes with the territory and you know, I think it's just the way you frame failure. Like you know, I don't, I don't, I don't take L's, I learned lessons, you know. So it's like every, every time you just well, I won't do that again. Or you know, oh, that, oh that works. You know, let me do, let me try it again. And it's just like that, that constant, that constant refinement of the self right. Like you just keep going and keep going. I mean as long as you, as long as you're progressing forward.

Like I know a lot of people use the Earl Nightingale definition of success, but it's just so, so, so, just precise, right. And he says you know, the definition of success is the progressive realization of a worthy ideal, like you know, so as long as that word, you have a worthy ideal, which no one can tell you what a worthy ideal is for you. You know you have to decide that for yourself. And once and once you find something that's worthy enough and you start progressing towards it. You know it doesn't matter how many times you fail, because progression makes you successful. I didn't learn that until a few years ago, but you know, I was like a unconscious competent when it came to that. You know, I just knew I wasn't, you know, at the end of the like, even back to what you were saying about, like retiring at 65, like I think I always had that like, at the end of the day, I can always go get a job and then retire at 65, right? So it's like you know. Let's see, let's see what this is hidden for.

Yeah, no, 100%. I feel like having that, that like, almost like that. What if mentality like on, like, like or what's the worst that could go wrong? Like, like, what if I do try this Like, let me just give it a shot, like that's what I'm called the let me give it a shot mentality, yeah, and get trying things out. Never hurt nobody, right.

It's like you know, and we're and I think a lot of times I think a lot of people in the like the entrepreneurship space, the burned the bridges approach is great when you plan behind it.

Right.

It's not just like burn the bridges, yes, also wait, like like you don't have to wait until you're in a good position to burn the bridges, but at least have it planned out before you go burn the bridges.

For sure.

Don't just, you know, go burn the bridges and have no idea about anything that you want to do. That's not what I think. I think people get misinterpreted.

It's like I have an idea and when you have the idea, shoot Like, yeah, see where it takes you, but don't go on your job today and like yeah yeah, yeah, I want to ask you a question to speaking about jobs, to bro Um, because you said you were at the last job for like four years, three, four years before you finally quit, when all in your business I didn't quit I was terminated, okay.

But it was a wrong termination. I actually, I actually want to loss, I want to lawsuit against them and that kind of helped, you know, start my business too, but that I digress because I'm not even allowed to really talk about that as like terms of the settlement. So, but long story short, you know I did, uh they, I was a top producer there, man, that's where I learned all my skills and learn how to sell and got a lot of my customer service, uh, training and stuff like that. Like I'm, I'm extremely grateful for that experience and I'm grateful that I got fired, because if I didn't, I would probably still be working there, about to retire at 65, right, so it's like you know.

But, um, you know, when I did get terminated, it was devastating because I loved that job. You know, I finally found something that I liked, you know, uh, and I finally had a year where I only had one W, two, you know, like Baltimore. So it was like I was, I felt I felt comfortable and, um, stable. So when, when that got taken away from me, you know it was pretty devastating. And then at the time, like you know, I had a kid and you know, so it was more than just me that I had to worry about and taking a consideration. So that was like a huge um, that was like a pivotal moment for me in my journey. But uh, but yeah, no, but go ahead. I'm sorry to cut you off, but yeah, I was, I didn't quit.

So let me ask you, right, so, right, right there, you had two options, right, you could have either soaked in complaining and you know, try to find another job, or you was like why not? You know, let me start setting up on my own and see where that takes me. And like, during that time, one, what kind of made you go towards the business route? Um, and then two, like what was it like in that beginning stages of like getting it off the ground?

Vengeance man, like I said, it was a. I felt I was wrongfully terminated and I love the job and I was really good at the job. So it was like, oh, y'all gonna let me. You know, first of all, it made me realize that I wasn't even though I felt like you know well, the numbers didn't lie like I was a top performer, like they had KPIs and everything. I was always at the top. But it made me realize, even with that high level of performance, that at any day the employer is in control and they can let you go. You know so. But in the way that I was let go, it just pissed me off so bad that I was like all right, I'm gonna start a company and I'm gonna compete against these guys. And it was out of pure vengeance and revenge, like, okay, I'm about to go out here and I'm gonna blow something up and they're gonna be sorry. You know that they ever let me go right.

So so you know that was a good, powerful driver. And then, like I said, I didn't finish school Like I did once in a semester and a half before I left school, so everything that I remember. I didn't even have a desk Like I had. We had an extra bedroom that I used as an office, like my computer. I had a big desktop computer and I had my monitor and it was on the floor and I was sitting on the pillow and I had, like notebook and Google University bro, like how do you start a business in Ohio? Okay, how do you find taxes? How do you hire people? And it was just, you know, a lot of self-study and it took in a lot of mistakes too. You know there was things that I was doing that I didn't have to do. There was things that I should have did that I didn't do, but it was literally taking this idea out of my head and bringing it into fruition one piece at a time, you know.

So yeah, Now I mean I love that you brought that up and it was like you're transparent about it. I feel like a lot of times, like people try to make it seem like you have to have this like super, like morally just reason, Like I want to save you know, I want to impact a million lives, Right, and it sounds great and that's a bad reason, but like, yeah, it's a great reason, but it's like also like nah, I'm gonna show them Right, I'm gonna show them Like they made the wrong decision and I asked her. Mosey talks about it. Man, he says rule number one to entrepreneurship is using what you got.

And most people, in most cases got a whole lot of pain in one way, shape form, another, a whole bunch of negative emotions bottled up and maybe trauma, maybe anger, maybe resentment and maybe hatred, maybe whatever it may be. But it's like rule number one use what you got. And so it's like at that moment it was vengeance, like for me, like business, it's just like I just hated the idea of going to corporate. Man, I hated it. I hate the idea of working for somebody. That's like even when so I tried to do an agency for my corporate, for my, for my stop and say or media business, that was the first like idea. Cause back when ClickFunnels was gonna launch ClickFunnels 2.0, I was on that first challenge that they did when they were gonna launch it live. And then I got my ClickFunnels account.

Now, at that time I was like, man, I'm fed up over real estate, I'm not, I don't want to sell houses anymore, like. And I was already teaching social media classes. And so I was like, all right, screw that, I'm gonna take this momentum I got with the social media classes, screw real estate, I'm gonna start an agency, teach the classes for free and then get agency when I want clients. After my first client I was like bro, this is pretty much still working for somebody. This is everything I try to run away from, just to go right back into it. I was like heck, no, scrap that idea up. I hated it, man, and that's what kind of like spark, you know, led to what I got going on now.

But it's like man, like, sometimes it's like that negativity is like fuels you a lot more than like the grandiose idea, cause sometimes it's you know it's it's a little fluffy. It can get a little fluffy sometimes, right.

For sure it doesn't have any actually tangible meat to it.

And so even with, like football too, one of the other like motivating factors that I think people knock, that I hate that people knock, is competition. Like when I started hearing that people are like they're taking away scoring from like kids games. That's crazy.

I was like what, Bro?

What's the point? Like one of me is like back when I played Xbox, like I'm gonna let you have it. If I cooked you that day in gym, you were not going to hear the end of it. I'm gonna know how many points I had, how many assists I had, how many everything I had. I'm telling you my whole entire stat line and why I'm better than you for the entire day until, like, we play the next game.

You gotta have some stats, man.

Yeah, you got to me, I think like competition just drives so much like improvement and innovation when you have like like no ill intent behind it.

Like some of that stuff. It's like people like villainized competition, almost in a way they antagonize it. Like bro, like competition is amazing, like everything I've done, like I remember football practice. We were going in the gym Sometimes they're in practice to everyone lift and like when it was max prep, like max days, and everyone had to hit their you know, their new PRs and stuff like that. You'll need the energy, the fire that you go on there and it's like you know. I mean, in high school I think my max revenge was like 205. I think it was the highest.

I went back in high school. I was never good at like deadlifting or anything like that. I had squats, so I have pretty strong legs and I benched like my go-to though, and so I just remember, like you know, whenever PR, you know bench day came out or any type of max, like that fire, it's like no, I'm about to, you did 195. I watched this. I'm not gonna add another plate on there, bro and how you know, yelling and screaming is like that fueled me up so much and like, so, like when people try to knock, using negativity as a fuel, it's like man, it's like. For me, it doesn't really make sense because it's motivating you to do something good and may not be the best fuel for longevity, but in the moment, as I said, use what you got, type of thing For sure.

And it's like, I mean, it's a healthy competition, right, like cause, even though you guys were competing in that room, you guys were still on the same team, right. And it's like, even in the like, in my space, like I go to industry events and there's other people who, technically, are my competitors, right. But you know, it's just that perspective, right. You know, yeah, we all want to get accounts, but it's like, first of all, it's having the awareness that there's enough accounts out here for everybody in this industry to eat, right. So it's like, you know, even in Cleveland, like I know probably four or five people who do the exact same thing as I do. They have their own companies. They may do it in a different way, but you know, we always run into each other and we, you know, we rub elbows and we and we, you know, iron sharpens iron, right, it's like I've never crossed paths with them and was fighting over one customer with them, right, and we have good relationships, right. But if my dude tells me, like you know, what you got going on man, he's like, oh, I just, you know, did a $10,000 camera job. I'm like, oh, let me go out here and give me a feel 15, you know, so so, so, and it's exactly that same, like that same analogy, like with the football team, like it's you need, you need to have a source of inspiration, whether that's your positive ambitions or it's that negative drive, and it's like we call it negative but that's kind of like the wrong word for it. You know it's not, it's not good or bad, it just is. And we have to put, you know, we have to judge that emotion or that thought. You know, on what it is Like, you know, is it good or is it bad? That I hated my previous employer, you know it was enough to drive me to start knocking doors, right? No, that was a good resentment, you know, for me, because I was able to use that as a catalyst to move forward.

So so, you know, I think the a good thing for people to be aware of is, like, you know, don't, don't. It's authenticity right, and transparency right, and being authentic with how, how you truly feel and use what you got right. You know like, yeah, I don't, I don't want to save the world, I'm pissed off and I'm pissed off, but I'm so pissed off that I'm going to go and give an X and immense and excellent amount of customer service, that this, that this client chooses me over my competitor, right, you know. So, yeah, even though the driving force behind that may have a negative connotation, it's yielding such a positive result that, you know, is it right or wrong? It is what it is. Like, you know, they won't. They won't know that, like I won't tell them that I'm here because I hate my, my old job, right, but that's what, that's what got me out of bed. And, you know not, I still remember the first door I knocked, you know so. So that's that's kind of deep man, you know this is good.

Yeah, definitely 100%, bro. It's like you got me thinking. Have you ever heard of like the I love philosophy?

Me too, I'm a deep thinker man.

So, like you heard, do you know the story of the, the, the maybe, the maybe story, the farmer and his son.

Oh, I have heard it, but remind me though and remind listeners, because I remember what you said, but yeah, it is good though, but I can't think of it right now.

Yeah, Cause you were talking about assigning meanings to things Like what is one of the things I always think about like different, like little tangent. Before I bring it back, I always think about it's like in a world where no religion, no morals, no governance, what is actually good and bad? And it's like a frame in mind, cause we all believe what we believe, right. So I'm not saying that there isn't good stuff and isn't bad stuff.

I believe that there's something, that certain things that are good and certain things that are bad, but I also know that's because of my belief system. Right, but like so, sometimes I take myself out of frame and be like all right in a world where none of this was truly to say what is. Is there even a good and bad If you take everything out of it and the answer is not?

I think it is, but it's like way you you zoom out right and it's like, as long as you are not this is my opinion as long as you not violating the laws of the universe or violating the rights of others, then it's fair game. You know what I mean, so. So yeah, there are things that will violate the rights of others, like you know, messing with little kids and killing, and still you know stuff like that that's clearly, you know, definitively wrong.

you know what I'm saying. But outside of that, you know, if I was just having a conversation with somebody the other day like if, if, if you choose with your allotted time here on this planet to to be a bum you know, not even bum is probably a bad word but if you, if you choose to not do the things that say a Grant Cardone is doing, or so you know, whatever you choose to do within your allotted time here is your prerogative, as long as you not violating the laws of the universe and not you not hurting nobody else. So if you want to sit back and drink your smoke weed all day, and that's how you want to spend your time to you die more power to you. Just don't do nothing to affect, you know, other people during, during that, during those episodes, right? So, but outside of that, hey, we all here trying to figure it out together and you know what is who's right and who's wrong.

You know, nobody can tell you what's right for you for your life. You know you there will never be another person exactly like you, with your exact makeup and your exact perspective and your experiences and everything that's made you who you are today, to this point. So no one can advise you on what's right and wrong for you to to move forward and what you should and should not be doing in your life, because they don't have your, your 100% perspective. You know what I mean. They don't know. They don't know the, the, the the deepest thoughts and the in the depths of your soul. You know the that nobody knows about, right, that may have came from.

You know, maybe you went to a carnival or something as a kid and tripped over a rock, and maybe that's something that's like you know and that's just a weird example. But you get what I'm saying, though there are, like little experiences that people that you know, maybe insignificant, that we might not even be consciously aware of, that are making up our, our, our whole perspective on on life and it's making us to choose certain things. So, no, you know, nobody can really tell you what's right and wrong, you know for you. So, yeah, that's, that's good.

I agree, bro. Yeah, there's one thing I came to the realization to like last year like the truth with life can only be found on the other side of life, so in order for one. To gain the truth, one must then give up their life, and so it's like is you ask someone, why? Enough time you realize no one really knows anything about anything.

Exactly.

It's just like knowing that all this stuff is just to help me keep an open mind, right? Oh no, like Sakurthi says, I know that I do not know Right, and like to back, to spin it back to what we were talking about earlier with the man and the son or whatever, and the horses. And pretty much what happened was he had like a man farmer, he had a son and there was two horses in his farm and one day the fence broke down and the horses run free, right? Everyone from the village comes like damn, that must suck, bro, you just lost your horses.

That's horrible, oh, grandpa's like maybe and then boom next, you know, the horses come back with a whole like herd of horses. They all come back, a bunch of wild horses plus the two horses that ran away. Everyone from the village comes around like yo, like oh, my goodness, that's amazing, that's a blessing, that's. You know, grandpa come back like maybe.

Right.

And then I see no sons taking care of one of the wild horses. He ends up breaking like his leg or his arm or something like that.

And then from the village come back around like, damn bro, that must suck. Like I know you're tight. Like grandpa said maybe. And then the last day, I think they were going to war or something like that, and people from the kingdom came and was like, oh, we're going to draft everyone to go to war. That's able, body and healthy, son, injured, can't go to war. Everyone like, oh, my goodness, that's great, your son didn't go to war. You must be so lucky, grandpa said maybe.

It's like the story. I love it because it's like it just goes to show like we assign meaning to everything. Exactly, and so it's like the only reason things make us feel a certain type of ways, because we assign that meaning to whatever experience it was that triggered whatever we were feeling.

Exactly.

It's when someone bumps you like like a hermose, she would mention something, like something one called like it's like skinny, but like they said it in like a negative tone, like you know, like you know somebody was like, oh, do you even eat, type of thing, yeah, yeah, but she's like, she just laughed. It's like, oh, I'm skinny, and just like the meaning she assigned into that, even though that guy was like trying to like actually like Disrespectful, right, disrespect her, and you know the meaning she assigned to. That was a Joke, it was funny, it's comical, right. And she's like it's a lot easier said than done, right? Oh, yeah, a whole lot easier said than done. So I don't mind even listening. Like, oh, these guys are some philosopher guy that they got it off. Nah, like yeah, we still human too. Man, just because it's so good doesn't mean it's easy, it's simple but it's not easy 100%, man, 100%.

Try to be aware of, like all of it. And then I got For me. It's like another good one too. It's like whenever Something happens to you that gets you annoyed, imagine this was the thousands, like the thousandth time to happen. I imagine this is like a daily occurrence, something that, for example, traffic. It's like, oh, I'm not gonna hit traffic again, but what if you had traffic every day for the rest of your life? Well, I would just be the norm, just be the norm and it wouldn't be affected.

You know you wouldn't be affected at all. So it's like, whenever you get into certain situations, it's like I try to imagine, like, well, how do you feel this was the 10,000th time that it happened? Right, this is just always happen. You probably want to feel as like. You know, effect that you wouldn't be so high energy about it. It'd be like oh, I expected that. Let me continue about my business.

Right, right, that's literally a lesson one and the course I've created, man, it's, it's expectation, and yeah, when you just expect things, it's like you can, you can prepare for them and you don't have to be as as a Soup, as affected by it. You know extra, to an extreme level. Right, it's like, oh yeah, I'm feeling this way and I expected to feel this way and it is what it is, so let me just Carry on right. So yeah, but it doesn't throw off my whole day like, oh man, somebody didn't buy for me, so I'm just gonna throw the whole business away or I'm not gonna. You know, you know, it's never that extreme. It's like, well, onto the next one, onto the next, the next event experience.

So I think, like a lot of disappointment comes from Expectations and like one of my favorite laws is the laws detachment Right and just detaching yourself from whatever the outcome is like. You know you did your best part. You know you did the best that you can do.

Detach yourself from whatever outcome right and like all the people and it's like in everything, like the people who need, whatever they. You know, the thing is the least, always get it the most. Don't have the people all in. Billionaires don't need any more money. They just keep on making more money, bro, like. And the same thing with like for like. For example, like the dudes, like the jocks in the in all the movies, right, all the dude, the jocks. They got all the girls. Why, they don't care Like, they just do.

There's a do and that may not be like the most ethical, you know you get the picture right. It's like, yeah, when you have so much Attachment to whatever the outcome is, the more attachment you have, the worst you're gonna feel if things don't go right. Like full transparency moment. Like for my launch in January man, I was expecting, I was trying to run up some numbers like crazy numbers, man, I was trying to at least crazy for me.

I was trying to hit a hundred in a day, right, and I think my total launch did like 17, like 17, five I think, which is not a bad launch, but I wanted to hit a hundred right. Like day one no one bought, everyone bought from the email sequence, but like day one when no one bought on the on the live call and I pitched like the, the sucker punch in my stomach. Like I'm not gonna lie, I Low key felt depressed for like a day and a half, like now is because I was so attached to that outcome, like I was gonna use that money to help pay off debt, like to help get me right, give me about you know, save my some money up so I could be in a good position.

Words like I can really just start being free. And like really play without having cuz. Like you come at things from a different mindset, even if you have an abundance mindset, like abundance mindset, don't pay bills.

This is like when you know, like so there's a part of you like you have to be optimistic and think like, okay, like this is gonna work and be confident that's gonna work. But it's also like, man, this better work, this don't work out. Man, I don't know how much longer I could keep this going, man, I was like I was banking on this to make it like to be my like the ticket out, and I can't you know, I can't lie that Monday, that Tuesday, I was sick to my stomach. I didn't like that's probably like the least of a man I ever felt like an a while bro, like that during suck, but I was so attached to the outcome. Yeah, it's like and that's just a learning lesson right now been more about the law of attachment. Eat way before that line.

It's like I said, like we said earlier, man, it's a lot easier said than done, just gonna simply disappear easy, man, and I'm sorry, but you mentioned to something about your course, um, and we were talking about the offline a little bit. I think it's a perfect segue, man. Like we've been chopping time like literally 100% definitely gotta get you back on. But where can we connect with you, man? Where can we find you out what you got cooking up for us so that we can get more of what you got going on?

you know, that's where it connect with me is. I'm probably most active on Instagram, so it's just at Ellery Sears, ell, ery Sdars. Connect with me on there if you want to check out my negative empowerment blueprint. That's the course I've created around. Really, I mean it's kind of sweet the way this conversation went, because we really were just touching on all of that man. But yeah, check that out, it's the negative coach. Calm, there's gonna be two options on there one for one on one coaching with me.

But if you scroll down, you can click, you could take the course. It's a six video course, short. You can probably do it in one sitting and it's free. So, you know, that's just something like you said, one one. One Feels the pockets, one feels the heart right. Yeah, it feels the purpose right. So that that's really, you know, just a, an organized, my organized process of of this. So, yeah, you know, I genuinely think it will. It will help. You know, just the average person, right, who is challenged with one negative thinking but to ever over saturation of people Pushing the positive mindset as the end, all be all to doing anything right.

You do, you do need to, you do need to have a positive mindset. You do need to have clarity with what you want to do, but you can. You can use Other things as drivers to push you there, right and that's. There's nothing wrong with that, and it's actually Very useful if you do it the right way. So, yeah, check it out, man and, you know, give me some feedback. Hit me on IG and yeah, let's, let's work.

Amazing. Now I'm curious, man, to see what you got coming. You know what you got answer with, but now it's time for the famous five questions. Same five questions. We asked every single guest that hops on, and I'm curious to see what you're gonna say today. These questions rapid fire around man. So okay, here what you're gonna come up with. So question number one is what is the most impactful lesson you've learned in life?

who the most impactful lesson that I learned in life would have to be oh man, I think it's. I think it would have to be Never stop learning. I think that I think you should. I think Education is very important and I think that you should always be educating yourself, and in Some regards or maybe even not education, but but never stop improving, and even little improvements matter what in whatever sphere of life, whether it be physical, fitness or or finance, or spirituality, or your mental health, or your relationships. Always, you know, try and be a little better Than you were yesterday, today and leave. Yeah, that'll probably be it for me.

What is the most admirable trait a person can have?

Persistence, persistence. Yeah, I'll leave it at that.

If you had to change someone's life but you only had one book to give them, which book would you recommend?

You square by price per shit.

Okay, what is the legacy that you're working on leaving behind?

I would like to just be a pioneer in the personal development space and be someone that people look to as authentic and not just saying pretty words. You know what I mean. This is the real. I've been there. I've done that. This is what I've learned from that experience. I've been where you're at and I've listened to the things that you've listened to. I've read what you've read for the most part, and I'm aware of what's out there, but this is what worked for me.

You don't have to have it all together to do anything. Honestly, everything that you've done where you're at right now has nothing to do with where you can go. What you're experiencing right now is just the results of what you've done up until this point, and you can literally pivot Right now. Don't burn the bridge right away, but it starts with that decision. Once you make that decision that this is what I'm going to do, then let everything else fall in place. You can see that end game, but also see the short term goals.

It might be you just need to make enough money to pay the light bill or to eat and use that as a fuel. Ultimately, you do want to make multiple millions of dollars if you do, but right now you need to eat. How can you eat right now? What can you do in this very moment to push you towards that goal? I think that, hopefully, my daughters absorb this. That's why I love doing stuff like this. I love doing podcasts and writing books and courses, because it's like immortality. It's on the internet, it's out there. When they get a little older and start Googling dad, they see some stuff and they're like oh yeah, daddy knew what he was talking about. That's it.

You kind of answered the next question, but I still ask it anyways. For anyone that wants to embark on their walk 12 today, what is the first step you recommend they take?

Make a decision. Yeah, you're right, I did answer. You have to make that decision and you have to have clarity around that decision. It shouldn't be vague. It should be crystal clear on what it is that you want. It doesn't have to be super enormous or magnificent. It could be that you just want to take a vacation, or you just want to move into a new place, or it could be that you just want to give your kids a good grip. It can be smaller things, because what happens is I'm going to tangent, I know we got to end, but what happens is because we're progressive beings. That's the way God designed us to be.

It's very natural that once you hit a goal it's like you said you start to become aware like, oh, what's next? Oh, got me some food. I'm full. What can I do now? Maybe I can get some food for tomorrow, maybe I can feed somebody else. It's like you're never.

We don't know how much potential we have. The only way you can explore that potential is to keep improving and keep getting better. Once you hit that 205 on the bench, you're like shit. If I eat enough protein and work this out, I might be hit that 220. It just keeps going because you don't know. That's one thing that is 100% unanimous. We don't know how much we can do, and where you're at is the starting point. The other book I got to give them, another book, it's the Power of Awareness by Neville Goddard. He is just a wordsmith. He said I don't even want to misquote it, it was so good. Basically he said every destiny is the starting point of a new destiny. As you hit your destiny and it really goes once you hit that goal, that's the starting point of the new destiny. It's just progression. That would leave him with that.

That's fine, really, man. I'm glad we were able to connect that. I feel like I connect people for a reason. I'm glad we were able to connect. I'm glad we were able to stay in touch.

I'm looking forward to catching up with you at GroveCon.

man, I'm looking forward to just collabing with you more this year. Man, it's only up from here.

Yeah for sure. Whose turn is it in chess bro? Let me check, it's in my turn.

For all the listeners right now. In our next episode I'll let you know if who wins between me and Ellery in our very competitive chess match that we got going on. That's it for this episode. Make sure to give us a follow and I'll see you in the next one. Thanks, John.

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